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Monday, January 19, 2009
Hip pain
I found this discussion about Hip pathology on the CSP web:
Related articles:
http://ptjournal.org/cgi/reprint/86/1/110
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=172...
the patient is a rugby player (2nd row) who initially felt the pain prior to a game in the changing room there wasnt any trauma and as the patient started to warm up he couldnt due to pain. Since then he has had a number of physio appointments,where he under went stretching, soft tissue mobilisation etc. He was thought to have a psoas bursa which was injected X4 (with no improvement) prior to referral to the consultant.
The consultant then referred him back to physio for local treatment of the tendinopathy, but has offered debridement of the psoas if treatment doesnt work.
On assesment, Lumbar movements are normal although he does have some amount of pivoting at L1/2, unilateral palpation of these also slightly increased the pain in his hip, so neurodynamics were tested PKB increased pain (? due to neural tension or due to hip extension).
Hip assessment he has limited PROM with pain increase too much at around 100 degrees, MR/LR both painful, Ext painful, ADD painful, MS caused pain on all movements, PSOAS bursa test was positive, Minimal pain resisted trunk flexion to rule of abdo origin. palpation gives pain on adductor origin, flexor origin and generally very painful around the anterior area of his hip
my initial thought were ?psoas bursa but Rx of that hasnt worked, then perhaps a chronic adductor/flexor related pain so treatment has been aimed at these with minimal to no success treatment has included soft tissue work, eccentric loading relative rest hip stability exercises. to progress i decided to try Rx Lumbar segments to see if any improvement could be made from there (min/no improvement).
I am at a loss where to take treatment next, the patient as you cna imagine is fed up with the pain and is very willing to persevere, i am unsure of the psoas tendinopathy diagnosis due to my own objective findings, any help would be useful to decide where to aim my treatments next, may be some pain relieving modalities etc?
Many thanks
Have you cleared SIJ. I treat a lot of rugby players and find they often have SIJ dysfunction, especially 2nd row players, who jump and land alot.
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| Added by: | gtwinning |
| Posted: | 05 December 2008 13:38 |
I would start from scratch again, and slowing eliminate origins with the investigations he has had. If you are still ineffective then find someone with experience in high level rugby. In Gloucestershire I use one if the EIS sports doctors as he deals with Gloucester and Worcester teams. I haven't had a patient he hasn't cured!!!!
| Title: | Re: Hip pain |
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| Added by: | wriggles66 |
| Posted: | 05 December 2008 13:41 |
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| Added by: | ZASKAR |
| Posted: | 05 December 2008 13:43 |
Ade
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| Added by: | rachel.brophy@hotmail.com |
| Posted: | 05 December 2008 14:43 |
1. Capsular pattern - internal rotation ROM v's external rotation ROM and pain pattern
2. SIJ pattern - observed levels, ASLR, stork, prone extension, knee fall out i.e. kinetic tests to identify weak pelvic muscles unilaterally and/or malalignement
3. Muscle pattern - Iliospoas v's Rectus Femoral - Thomas test and resisted tests, palpation of psoas abdominally
He is likely to have a pelvic muscle/SIJ asymmetry causing this unilateral pain. Once this imbalance has been worked on any specific muscle problem/joint problem can then be treated with specific strengthening or MWM's of his hip rotation as needed. I would be interested what you find. Many second rows have this problem of differing degrees.
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| Added by: | Sinkers |
| Posted: | 05 December 2008 15:45 |
Ask him if he packs down right or left side of the scrum and which hip is it in relation to his foot position in the scrum.
he may technically be contributiing to this pathology
best wishes,
John
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| Added by: | paulntfisher |
| Posted: | 05 December 2008 18:59 |
He will also need a CT to rule out cam/pincer lesions Damian Griffin based in Coventry is exellent....
Labral tears can be sorted fairly easily....
hope that helps
| Title: | Hip impingement |
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| Added by: | timpowell |
| Posted: | 05 December 2008 21:07 |
The management of hip impingement is a very controversial issue and there is no consensus of Damian Griffin method of arthroscopic surgery versus Mark Norton who uses a Ganz Osteotomy. Either way try and find a hip surgeon who understands young adult hip pathology.
If you have had a good go at treating this guy don't bother with muscle imbalance etc etc - this guy needs a diagnosis as he will be questioning whether he will play again after 2 years.
| Title: | making sense of the mra |
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| Added by: | lauraengland1 |
| Posted: | 06 December 2008 08:37 |
also just quickly make sure diagnoses such as adducter lesions, gilmores groin have been excluded
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| Added by: | JosetteF |
| Posted: | 06 December 2008 13:10 |
Incidentally just to update all who have mentioned ilio-psoas; psoas bursitis; - Mark Comerford presented an evening lecture in February showing evidence that there is no bursa in Psoas Major and that its revised role looks more like this:
Lumbar spine: stability role through axial compression
Hip: stability role by holding the head of femur centred in the acetabulum
SI Joint: fascial connections to sacrum and innominate aiding force closure
Posterior rotation of innominates maintains close pack positioning
This brings the discussion back to what people like rachel.brophy and some others have pointed out: Looking at pelvic dysfunction - force/loading /muscle imbalance
adaptive patterns of movement. One can hypothesise that the anterior translation (if evident) may be resultant from inhibition of Psoas due to overactivity of Piriformis/ischio-coccygeus among others/ poor training techniques especially the loaded squats favoured by rugby players and their instructors
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| Added by: | joeybea |
| Posted: | 07 December 2008 12:24 |
This involves palpation of the femoral head during these functional tasks and compare Right ato Left. Tight glutes, not allowing the 'seating' and overstretched anterior capsular/ muscular tissue are two things to look out for. Referring to Sahrmann or Diane Lee's work on pelvic dysfunction is a great place to start.
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| Added by: | TJCSmith |
| Posted: | 07 December 2008 18:56 |
I would have to disagree with Paul Fisher that 'labral lesions can be sorted fairly easily'. They are far more complex than labral lesions in the shoulder due to the important role in stability of the hip joint and reducing contact stress on the articular surface by distributing load. I realise the labrum in the shoulder performs the same role but due to the weight bearing function of the hip I think it is a more complex problem. You may want to have a look at this article - http://ptjournal.org/cgi/content/full/86/1/110
What has this guy been doing in the interim? You have not mentioned what he is capable of functionally now two years on from the original symptoms beginning. Has he actually made a reasonable attempt at letting the condition settle so that appropriate rehab can work? We must create a window of opportunity to help someone through appropriate off-loading first.
You may also like to have a look at this article - http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=172...
It may help guide your assessment and diagnosis.
| Title: | RE: hip pain |
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| Added by: | djb |
| Posted: | 09 December 2008 10:27 |
I attended the Sports Hip Surgery Conference last month. The radiologist there talked about these scans that may show a pathology, but requires a radiologist/orthopod who has a clear understanding of inpingement/labral pathologies to interpret them. CT 3D reconstruction would help, but needs to be by the correct team.
Damian Griffin/Richard Villa/Darren Fern/Mark Norton. These guys know when the dfifferent approaches discussed in earlier comments are appropriate and suggest you get him in with one of them.
Had similar prob myself and tried various physio approaches prior to diagnosis. If the hip specialists rule out cam/pincer probs etc, then try physio tricks. (i had a scope and repair by Damian Griffin - very impressed.)
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| Added by: | paulntfisher |
| Posted: | 09 December 2008 15:43 |
been overly optimistic but agree with djb in that somebody who really knows
there stuff should look in detail at the structure of the hip (CT etc).
Unless you can really clear the joint component I think to subject him to more physio or a period of rest as TJCSmith seems to advocating when he has already
had 2 years of problems is perhaps not in is his best interests, especially
for a sportsman.
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| Added by: | chapman |
| Posted: | 09 December 2008 19:16 |
definately a case by case basis with, perhaps, challenging clinical reasoning for recommendation to surgery.
one can quote plenty of successful outcomes. however, unfortunately, my recent experience has been less than favourable. on my suggestion a patient sought further advice for a relatively low grade impingement (albeit one that limited his preferred career pathway) that proceeded to surgery. following an unsuccessful outcome, including that from revision surgery, he is worse off than initial presentation.
the moral here, i think, is that such intervention may well be far from straight forward. they say you can't win them all, but.........................
mike
ps another case of mine, from a few years back, failed to respond to all physiotherapeutic interventions quoted thus far. he went away, engrossed himself in other activities for a year or so and re-emerged asymptomatic............hmmmmm
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| Added by: | Femke |
| Posted: | 09 December 2008 19:35 |
Ask radiologist to check his MRI for this, or refer him for US scan...
I agree with process of elimination, and can't harm to get a second orthopaedic opinion either...
Muscle Imbalances will be present now 2 years into injury... Can never tell if that was cause of 'original' injury...
Where was original pain, what aggr this at time...has this changed since 2 years?
Any tenderness over Symphysis Pubis?
Let us know how you get on!
| Title: | Hip pain? |
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| Added by: | MelanieSweetland |
| Posted: | 10 December 2008 08:49 |
| Title: | Hip impingement |
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| Added by: | timpowell |
| Posted: | 10 December 2008 11:47 |
Geoffrey M. Verrall, Lachlan Henry, Nicola L. Fazzalari, John P. Slavotinek, and Roger D. Oakeshott
Bone Biopsy of the Parasymphyseal Pubic Bone Region in Athletes With Chronic Groin Injury Demonstrates New Woven Bone Formation Consistent With a Diagnosis of Pubic Bone Stress Injury
Am. J. Sports Med., first published on Oct 20, 2008
Geoffrey M. Verrall, John P. Slavotinek, Gerald T. Fon, and Peter G. Barnes
Outcome of Conservative Management of Athletic Chronic Groin Injury Diagnosed as Pubic Bone Stress Injury
Am. J. Sports Med., Mar 2007; 35: 467 - 474.
Essential conservative rehab does seem beneficial provided the right diagnosis is obtained.
I am currently involved in a research project with Mark Norton and his SpR looking at outcomes of hip debridement surgery in military patients that we hope will be published in the JBJS. The hip impingement surgical community is divided as to whether to do open or arthroscopic surgery - each has plus points and down points but generally less numbers will be able to have arthroscopic due to accessing lesion arthroscopically,
What I would comment on is that anyone who thinks labral tears/hip impingement can be 'easily sorted out' is kidding themselves. I have rehabbed several people after this operation and been in theatre for several ops. It is technically difficult surgery for the surgeon and painful for the patient and as Mike Chapman has eluded to - it does have failures.
As I have already mentioned in a previous post this guy needs to get a diagnosis. I am not sure where you are DMW but Mark Norton takes out of area referrals or get him into a good sports physician to help you - he has struggled on for 2 years now don't waste time with some of our professions more tenuous Rx without a diagnosis either by exclusion or second opinion.
feel free to contact me should you wish: CULDROSE-PHYSIO@mod.uk
Tim
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| Added by: | TJCSmith |
| Posted: | 13 December 2008 11:54 |
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| Added by: | asharp |
| Posted: | 07 January 2009 10:43 |
RX - symphysis pubis dysfunction. ME techniques I have found useful sometimes.Good luck
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Monday, January 12, 2009
Groin pain
Geoffrey M. Verrall, Lachlan Henry, Nicola L. Fazzalari, John P. Slavotinek, and Roger D. Oakeshott
Bone Biopsy of the Parasymphyseal Pubic Bone Region in Athletes With Chronic Groin Injury Demonstrates New Woven Bone Formation Consistent With a Diagnosis of Pubic Bone Stress Injury
Am. J. Sports Med., first published on Oct 20, 2008 http://ajs.sagepub.com/cgi/content/full/36/12/2425
Geoffrey M. Verrall, John P. Slavotinek, Gerald T. Fon, and Peter G. Barnes
Outcome of Conservative Management of Athletic Chronic Groin Injury Diagnosed as Pubic Bone Stress Injury
Am. J. Sports Med., Mar 2007; 35: 467 - 474. http://ajs.sagepub.com/cgi/content/full/35/3/467
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Tuesday, October 21, 2008
Hamstrings rehab
http://www.sportex.net/newsite/common/mainframe.asp?txtOr...
Conditioning the hamstrings: training considerations for performance and injury prevention
by Dr Duncan N. French, Published in sportEX dynamics, Issue: 15, Pages: 18-22
"The hamstrings themselves are most active during the late swing phase, through early to mid-stance phase of the running gait cycle. They act to decelerate the forward momentum of the leg and reverse the swing action via active hip extension. During the late swing phase, the bicep femoris experiences a great degree of mechanical stretch, thereby becoming susceptible to specific injuries related to the lengthening of the musculotendon unit. In listening to athletes who have experienced hamstring strains many report that their injury occurred as a result of acting to decelerate their body or working their limbs through an exaggerated range of motion as they emphasised their stride length during a sprinting action. The majority of hamstring strains occur during the eccentric actions of the blocking and plant phases of running gait, with most occurring during the plant phase as muscles move into a lengthened position whilst also experiencing high tensile loads. Training of the hamstrings to manage these forces should therefore be a critical part of any athletes preparatory activities".
References
1. Santana JC. Hamstrings of Steel: Preventing the Pull, Part I - Isolated Versus Integrated Function. Strength and Conditioning Journal 2000; 22(6):35 - 36
2. Brandon R and Cleather D. Training the hamstrings for high speed running ? Part II. Professional Strength and Conditioning 2007;7
3. Lieber RL. Skeletal muscle structure, function, and plasticity. Lippincott, Williams and Wilkins 2002. ISBN 0781730619
4. Gambetta V and Benton D. A systematic approach to hamstring prevention and rehabilitation. www.gambetta.com/resources
5. Boyle M. Functional Training for Sports. Human Kinetics 2003. ISBN 073604681X.
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Monday, September 08, 2008
Interventions for Hip OA
http://www.ptjournal.org/cgi/reprint/ptj.20070042v1
Effectiveness of Nonpharmacological and Nonsurgical Interventions for Hip Osteoarthritis: An Umbrella Review of High-Quality Systematic Reviews, (2007) Moe et al, Volume 87 Number 12 Physical Therapy
An increasing number of systematic reviews are available regarding nonpharmacological and nonsurgical interventions for hip osteoarthritis (OA). The objectives of this article are to identify high-quality systematic reviews on the effect of nonpharmacological and nonsurgical interventions for hip OA and to summarize available high-quality evidence for these treatment approaches.
The authors identified and screened 204 reviews. Two independent reviewers using a previously pilot-tested quality assessment form assessed the full text of 58 reviews. Six reviews were of sufficient high quality and could be included for further analyses. There was moderate-quality evidence that acupuncture and diacerein have no effect on pain and function. There was low-quality evidence that strengthening exercises and avocado/ soybean unsaponifiables reduce pain and that diacerein decreases radiographic OA progression. There was insufficient high-quality evidence regarding nonpharmacological and nonsurgical interventions for hip OA, and further primary studies and reviews are needed.
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Tuesday, July 01, 2008
Hip Ax and differential diagnosis
I presented a IST on 26/06/07 on Hip Ax:
Hip Ax ISTAdapted from a presentation by Claire Small, physios in sport
Hip and Groin Pain - A Dilemma
Lack of specific clinical tests, Co-existence of multiple pathologies, Pain is not a good localiser of pathology
Groin Pain - ?Causes
Hip joint pathology
Adductor pathology
Inguinal pathology
Pubic pathology
Psoas pathology
Referred pain – M/S or Visceral
Stress or OP fracture, pelvis, femur
Dislocation/ subluxation/ dysplasia
Hernia; inguinal/femoral
Nerve entrapment
Tumour, infection, muscle calcification
Osteonecrosis, inflamed lymph nodes
Ankylosing Spondylitis, Lupus
Lateral Buttock Area - ?Causes
Trochanteric bursitis
Tendonitis of abductors/ external rotators
Apophysitis of greater trochanter
Referral from Lx
Thrombosis of gluteal arteries
Pubic Area - ?Causes
Sprain of pubic symphysis
Ostetis pubis
Abdominal muscle strain
Bladder infection
Gilmores groin
Anterior & Lateral Thigh
Strain of quadriceps
Meralgia paresthetica
Entrapment of femoral nerve
Medial Thigh
Strain of adductor muscles
Entrapment of obturator nerve
Referred pain from hip or knee
Buttock pain - Causes
Piriformis syndrome
Lx radicular/ referred
Gluteal/ Hams strain
Ischial burstis
Superior, inferior gluteal nerve palsy
Differential Diagnosis
Referral from:
Lx, knee, SI jt
Visceral – intra-abdominal; urologic, gynecologic, GI
Critical diagnoses:
Osteonecrosis, septic arthritis, acute fractures and avulsion fracture, malignant tumours, femoroacetabular impingement – MRI, X-ray
Strain, tendinitis, tendonosis:
Partial or complete avulsion; Adductor longus, rectus femoris, hamstrings, Iliopsoas. – MRI, X-ray
Femoroacetabular impingement
Cam - jamming of an abnormal femoral head with increasing radius into the acetabulum
Pincer - linear contact between the acetabular rim and the femoral head-neck junction
Labral Tears
Most common cause for mechanical hip symptoms – 20% of athletes with groin pain
Location; ant, post, superior
Etiology; Degenerative, dysplasic, traumatic, idiopathic
Hx; clicking, catching, locking
Differential Diagnosis
Developmental Dysplasia (DDH)
Slipped Capital Femoral Epiphysis (SCFE)
Differential Diagnosis
Vascular
Avascular necrosis
Infarction and muscular necrosis
Lumbopelvic Function (Claire Small)
Loss of effective load transfer across the pelvis
Overstrain and breakdown of tissues within the region
Mechanical overload of pelvic region
Pain, Inflammation, Degeneration
Assessment
Age; SCFE 10-20 yrs,
Hx; Mechanism of injury
SQ’s; urogenital problems, pelvic, abdo or back surgery, pregnant, SA, B+B
Invests; missed trauma, bld tests
DH; st’s, alcohol
SH; female triad
Area of pain – body chart
Assessment
Obs;
Alignment Lx, hip, pelvis, LLD
ASIS = pubic symphysis
Pelvic tilt; ant, post, lateral, rot
Glutei – well rounded, equal in size
Posture, gait – antalgic, trendelenburg
Lumbar spine
Active range of motion
- quality - muscle control
- range - muscle length
- neural mobility & Tests
Manual segmental examination
Thoracolumbar fascia
Quadratus lumborum
Core stability
Sacroilliac joint
Pelvis
Rotation?
Upslip?
3 x positive kinetic tests
Anterior and posterior gapping
Long situp – LLD?
ASLR (Mens et al 2002)
Assess response to various types of compression
Stabilising mechanisms
Motor control patterns
Delayed TrA activation, (Cowen et al 2004)
Loss of pelvic control, (Mens et al 2006)
Neuropathodynamics
Sciatic nerve
Femoral nerve
Obturator nerve
Hip joint
Trendelenburg, LLD
Hip AROM, PROM
Resisted, muscle tests; Glutes, adductors
Hip quadrant, FABER, sit up - illiopsoas
Labrum, Impingement tests, piriformis
Thomas test, Accessory; lat dist
Pulses
Palpation, Lx, PSIS, ishial tuberosities, illiac crests, piriformis, psoas
Pubis
Pubic overstrain
Pubic tenderness
Positive “Squeeze” test
- Adductor weakness
- Pain provocation
Adductor guarding
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Wednesday, June 11, 2008
Hip pain in Athletes
I found this on hip examination and differential diagnosis:
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Tuesday, March 27, 2007
Piriformis
I had a patient see me recently with what appeared to be piriformis syndrome. I wondered what else to recommend other than stretches and trigger point rx.
I went on the CSP website and found this:
Over Active Piriformis?
Posted: 08 March 2007 09:55
I have been treating a 25 year old active female for an over active piriformis, on assessment Lx was clear as was SI joint. Piriformis test was positive, and on palpation there were trigger points in piriformis, Gluteus medius and ½ way down ITB. She complains of buttock pain when walking, sitting for ½ hour and up/down stairs. She is a runner and this also aggravates it, however non impact work such as the cross trainer and cycling relieve the pain just for it to come back ½ hour later. I have given her stretches for piriformis and glutes as well as trigger point acupuncture and trigger point work at home which has relieved it temporarily. Piriformis test is now negative with the only trigger point is in ITB – ITB test is negative. I have asked her to increase her stretches and trigger point work to see if this helps.
Other than that does anyone have any other ideas, I have read Amanda Cottles question which helped to clear SI joint.
Thanks
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Piriformis
I had a patient see me recently with what appeared to be piriformis syndrome. I wondered what else to recommend other than stretches and trigger point rx.
I went on the CSP website and found this:
Over Active Piriformis?
Posted: 08 March 2007 09:55
I have been treating a 25 year old active female for an over active piriformis, on assessment Lx was clear as was SI joint. Piriformis test was positive, and on palpation there were trigger points in piriformis, Gluteus medius and ½ way down ITB. She complains of buttock pain when walking, sitting for ½ hour and up/down stairs. She is a runner and this also aggravates it, however non impact work such as the cross trainer and cycling relieve the pain just for it to come back ½ hour later. I have given her stretches for piriformis and glutes as well as trigger point acupuncture and trigger point work at home which has relieved it temporarily. Piriformis test is now negative with the only trigger point is in ITB – ITB test is negative. I have asked her to increase her stretches and trigger point work to see if this helps.
Other than that does anyone have any other ideas, I have read Amanda Cottles question which helped to clear SI joint.
Thanks
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Wednesday, August 16, 2006
Osteitis Pubis
I had a young footballer that has been puzzling me for a few weeks now. He came in with left groin pain after playing a very tough game of football. He had tried rest from football for 2 months but to no avail. Palpation of the ant pubic rami was painful and the left adductors were painful and weak to resistance. The pubic symphysis joint was aligned but the right SI jt was a little stiff on Peidallau's test, stork test was negative. He had a previous stomach muscle injury but no evidence of any hernia.
The footballer thought he had gilmores groin but after a bit of research I am more convinced he has Osteitis Pubis. See research attached:
Ostetis_pubis_in_footballers.pdf
I have given him hip strengthening and core stability exercises, told him to rest from football for at least 3 months and started him on a cycling programme. I am using low pulsed ultrasound on the ant pubic rami.
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